Tuesday, October 04, 2005

Decline and fall in the Netherlands?

I know we have the Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination and other important things going on, but in the past few days the right-wing blogosphere has also been abuzz with news of a polygamous marriage in the Netherlands. Here is the story, reported at the conservative site The Brussels Journal:


Netherlands and Belgium were the first countries to give full marriage rights to homosexuals. In the United States some politicians propose “civil unions” that give homosexual couples the full benefits and responsibilities of marriage. These civil unions differ from marriage only in name.

Meanwhile in the Netherlands polygamy has been legalised in all but name. Last Friday the first civil union of three partners was registered. Victor de Bruijn (46) from Roosendaal “married” both Bianca (31) and Mirjam (35) in a ceremony before a notary who duly registered their civil union.

“I love both Bianca and Mirjam, so I am marrying them both,” Victor said. He had previously been married to Bianca. Two and a half years ago they met Mirjam Geven through an internet chatbox. Eight weeks later Mirjam deserted her husband and came to live with Victor and Bianca. After Mirjam’s divorce the threesome decided to marry.

Conservative blogs were quick to jump on the story as a vindication of their predictions that legalizing gay marriage would put us on a slippery slope toward polygamy. Ace of Spades HQ asked, "Gay Marriage Will Lead To Polygamy? What Are The Odds Of That?" and replied, "Pretty f'n' good, as it turns out. The first three-party marriage -- well, 'civil union' -- has occurred in the Netherlands." More along the same lines at RedState.org ("Behold, the slippery slope in action"), Christian Coalition Blog ("Next time someone wants to 'pooh pooh' the notion that "civil unions" and/or outright gay marriage will create a slippery slope for degrading the institution of marriage even further, point them to this"), Tacitus ("Senator Santorum, I believe that's your vindication") and other places too numerous to mention. Last night, the story made Fox News as well: Bill O'Reilly, who has long argued that the legalization of same-sex marriage would open the door to polygamy, delivered a gloating I-told-you so at the end of his program.

But wait a minute. As Tim Cavanaugh points out at Reason's Hit & Run:

Victor, Bianca, and Mirjam are specifically not entering into a marriage but into a civil union, to which gay couples already have broad access. ... If you're upset that Victor and girls are free to set up their unusual relationship, you could just as easily argue that this shows the need to approve gay marriage and eliminate civil unions.

Actually, it turns out that it's not even a civil union. Victor and his two wives have entered something called a samenlevingscontract, or "cohabitation contract" -- which is not the same thing. Here's what a Wikipedia article (helpfully translated by a Dutch friend) says on the subject:

A cohabitation contract is a written agreement which can to a certain degree be compared to a marriage. It settles the legal and financial arrangements between two partners in a relationship. Other things can also be arranged in this contract, such as agreements about possible children in the relationship.

Since the eighties the contract has become popular with two different groups of people: those who wanted a relationship but didn’t want to get married, and those who lived together and wanted to get married but weren’t allowed to at that time. Because of the introduction of civil unions and later marriage for gays and lesbians, the need for cohabitation contracts has been reduced drastically for this group.

(Apparently, one principal difference between the samenlevingscontract on the one hand, and marriage/civil union on the other, is that the terms of the contract -- i.e., whether there will be alimony in case of a breakup -- are pretty much set by the parties themselves, except for legal provisions to protect children.)

So basically, the kind of contract the trio has entered into predates not only same-sex marriage but gay civil unions in Holland. Apparently there is some confusion over whether a cohabitation contract can include more than two people, or whether someone who is married can also enter into a cohabitation contract with a third person. This is the loophole the de Bruijns and Geven used to legalize their menage á trois. (Were they the first to do so, or merely the first to go public? No one seems to know.) They could not have availed themselves not only of same-sex marriage but even of a civil union, which is essentially marriage in all but name. By the way, in the United States, the law in Vermont expressly states that the parties to a civil union cannot be married to anyone else; I assume the same is true in other states that have legalized same-sex civil unions.

So in fact, one might argue that if anything is being vindicated here, it's the argument that Andrew Sullivan made more than 15 years ago: that domestic partnerships and other "quasi-marriage" mechanisms created to give some legal protections to gay and lesbian couples really do threaten the institution of marriage, and that it's much better, and actually much more conservative, to simply legalize same-sex marriage.

Does that mean there's nothing to the slippery slope argument? No, it doesn't. While I strongly favor equal legal rights for same-sex couples, I have also concluded, as I have written here, that the reasoning used to justify the legalization of same-sex marriage (i.e., the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's assertion, in Goodrich v. Department of Public Health, that marrying "the person of one's choice" is a fundamental right) could be used to support legalization of polygamy. For that to happen, however, there would have to be (1) a non-fringe political movement advocating for the right to multi-partner marriage, and (2) widespread social acceptance of multi-partner relationships. Of course, (1) and (2) are related. At this point in time, neither factor is present: the polyamory movement has about as much influence as the Flat Earth Society, and multi-partner relationships are almost universally regarded as either immoral or just plain weird.

A slippery slope scenario is possible in a cultural sense: once society begins to encourage full acceptance of unconventional sexual/romantic relationships, this acceptance may extend to "poly" relationships and marriages. Some gay rights advocates may be reluctant to take a "judgmental" stand toward any behavior, at least among consenting adults, that runs afoul of traditional morality. It is perhaps revealing that in the Dutch media accounts of the three-way "marriage," the Rosendaal Three say that they rarely encounter negative reactions to their arrangement, except from a "deeply religious co-worker" of Victor De Bruijn's. What's more, so far the only demand for government action to close the loophole (and, if possible, have the trio's cohabitation contract annulled) has come from a small and unpopular conservative Christian party, the SGP. So yes, perhaps once you've convinced people that it's intolerant to oppose gay marriage, they may be more inclined to see opposition to multi-partner marriage as intolerant as well. But no slippery slope is inevitable. There are good arguments against multi-partner marriage that do not apply to same-sex marriage. For one, legalizing mutli-partner marriage would change the nature of heterosexual marriages; legalizing same-sex marriage does not.

Right now, though, I don't want to get into a discussion of whether legalizing polygamy would equal the end of civilization as we know it, or whether banning polygamy, as some of my libertarian friends believe, is just as intolerant as banning same-sex marriage. The point is that the conservatives' presentation of this story -- "from same-sex marriage to polygamy in the Netherlands" -- is substantially inaccurate. So much for the no-spin zone, Mr. O'Reilly.

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great post & great journalism.

Revenant said...

Given that only two or three percent of the population is gay, I would be very surprised if the number of people interested in polygamous marriage didn't outnumber the number of people interested in gay marriage.

The gay marriage issue benefits from the prexisting gay-rights movement; that is why it is so much more widely discussed, not because the issue itself is of particular importance to more than a tiny portion of the population.

Anonymous said...

Of course, you know me. I've always argued that as far as *adult* relationships goes, marriage or civil unions or whathaveyou should not be qualified regarding sexual preference or even number. The only thing the state should have to worry about is the paperwork of are-they/aren't-they part of this particular union and how shall we tax-it/tax-break it. That's it.

Anything other than that is the state moralizing for the citizens and that's just creepy. At least from my point of view.

Cathy Young said...

revenant, good point about the gay marriage movement benefitting from the pre-existing gay rights movement. Also, I think one difference is that I don't think anyone regards the preference for multiple partners as a distinct sexual orientation. If same-sex marriage is not allowed, then a gay person cannot marry anyone (that he or she could have a satisfying relationship with).

But who knows? Perhaps someday there will be an argument that a person who either has an innate polygamous orientation or just happens to be in love with two people is being denied the kind of marriage they want if the law recognizes only monogamous marriages.

bearblue: interesting point, but let me raise a counterquestion. If we're going to take a totally libertarian position on this, why should the state privilege any relationships with tax breaks, special inheritance rights, etc. etc.? Why not allow private individuals to completely regulate their own relationships through freely chosen contracts? I could see making special provisions for child-rearing, but who says that your partner in child-rearing has to be your sexual partner as well? (If we've dispensed with the notion that your partner in child-rearing has to be the other biological parent of your child.) Why, for instance, shouldn't two or three single moms move in together so they can pool their resources and be a family?

Just throwing out some questions here.

Anonymous said...

:)

Cathy said, why should the state privilege any relationships with tax breaks, special inheritance rights, etc. etc.?

I don't know why it should, except the state has the habit of it. Of course, I support either a flat tax, or a purchase tax, just so we can get out of the anxiety of the paperwork. I'm not seeking an out, since I believe in paying for my roads and my education and even my wars. So, while I can see reasonable breaks - say for child rearing and for impoverished adults, college debt repayment, or for doing something that benefits the state(s) - I think breaks are not our most necessary item. Nice as they are when we get them. We wouldn't have the burden of the taxes quite so rough (or as high) if everyone just actually payed them without trying to finaegle out of them.

Next you asked: Why not allow private individuals to completely regulate their own relationships through freely chosen contracts?

I think that sounds excellent. Espcially, since, technically all that marriage is, is a contract. So, if people want to modify the contract one way or the other, they ought to be able to do so.

Or, if they prefer the free-fall of no contract living, they ought to be able to do that too, without civic punishment.


And finally you say, Why, for instance, shouldn't two or three single moms move in together so they can pool their resources and be a family?

I agree. Why shouldn't they? In fact, I think it would be the smart thing to do. If they wanted to contract together to form an official family just for the benefits, more power to them. Not all marriages are, after all, sexual in nature. Some folks just get married to live together in companionship. That's what my Grandpa did when he married my Step-Grandmother (They're both in their late 80's or so).

More, I think it would be beneficial for the state that they should do so. Certainly healthcare and home care for the kids would improve.

:)

Anonymous said...

polygamy is more traditional than monogamy

Dean said...

I have long read your columns, Ms. Young, and this particular one demonstrates why. Instead of jumping on one side or the other, or accepting the slant that comes off the wire, you dig into the real truth.

I'm glad I found your blog.

Anonymous said...

There's also the civil-rights issue. Polygamists enter into these contracts by choice; gay people are born that way, and the state is discriminating against their very nature by not allowing them to marry.
I think gay people aren't real keen to bring this up publicly, though, since it opens up the whole 'nature/nurture' pandora's box, which we're all a bit sick of by now. Personally, as a gay guy and serial monogamist, I don't really have a problem with gay marriage leading to polygamy, but I'd never admit that to a right-winger. It would be like grade school: "See? He just admitted it!"

Anonymous said...

The more the merrier, that's what I say! (*GRIN*) Seriously... who cares? I agree with your very first sentence, Cath, "...we have the Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination and other important things going on..."

That said... it's your blog, hon! Your game, your rules. I'll play.

I'm a straight Republican conservative with a pretty wide libertarian streak. I don't care who's boffing whom as long as we're talking consenting adults and society (i.e. me and everyone else!) doesn't have to pay the bill for the results - pregnancy, std's, etc.

I admit... I'm a bit biased in favor of the traditional mom/dad/kid(s) family. There's a lot to be said for "normalcy," or if you don't like that word, "traditionalism." At the same time, a stable lesbian or gay couple seems to be preferable to an unstable heterosexual couple... at least in terms of societal good.

As for polygamy... hey... as long as the women are good looking what's the big deal? (KIDDING!!! JUST KIDDING!!! Couldn't help but let my inner neandethal out!)

But seriously... what's the harm? Perhaps I read a bit too much Heinlein growing up, but a loving polygamous marriage sure seems preferable to your good old fashioned Sunday night murder mystery lover's triange.

Anyway... forgive the inevitable spelling errors! (*SMILE*)

BILL

Cathy Young said...

One Harriet Miers post coming up, William. *G*

Doug Pollard said...

I think this sort of arrangement is an advance on a duplicitous marriage with a mistress on the side - these people are publicly taking responsibility for one another and their actions - surely something wholly commendable?

Or would right wingers prefer secrecy, deceit and irresponsibility?

Cathy Young said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Cathy Young said...

Actually, if you believe that a monogamous relationship is the ideal, then I think there is a good argument to be made for secrecy and deceit. By keeping extramarital relationships secret, people are acknowledging the ideal of monogamy, even if not everyone can live up to it. Destigmatizing non-monogamous relationships would certainly take a lot of the leverage away from people who want and value sexual fidelity (because objecting to one's spouse taking another sexual partner becomes merely a private, and perhaps old-fashioned, preference rather than the social norm).

Anonymous said...

Two spouses?

I'm sorry, but I've never been able to handle one adequately.

Handling finances must be a chore. But if all three go out for dinner does the man get stiffed with paying for the two women? Or do they just go Dutch?

Anonymous said...

I find this kind of polygamy (freely adopted by mature adults) to be easier to accept than Utah-style polygamy where the society is cult-like, closed and highly dysfunctional, and the people involved include young girls who have no real say in the matter.

Legalizing polygamy would, I think, require differentiating between the two, which could be difficult to do constitutionally.

Cathy Young said...

anonymous:

I find this kind of polygamy (freely adopted by mature adults) to be easier to accept than Utah-style polygamy where the society is cult-like, closed and highly dysfunctional, and the people involved include young girls who have no real say in the matter.

Agreed, of course.

Legalizing polygamy would, I think, require differentiating between the two, which could be difficult to do constitutionally.

Actually, I am not so sure about that. All that's needed is tough enforcement of age-of-consent laws.

In fact, you could argue that legalizing polygamy would "bring it out of the closet," as it were, and curb some of those abuses.

p-bs-watcher (nice handle, by the way! *grin*):

Such as perhaps (1) an Islamic population and (2) a politically correct electorate afraid to be seen as intolerant of the Islamic population. For example Europe today and the U.S. in the not too distant future.

Yes, I've thought of that too, but trying to legalize polygamy based on the Islamic model would run into some pretty furious opposition from feminists.

My hunch is that if there's ever going to be a big test case that puts multipartner marriage on the radar screen, it's going to involve either two bisexual women and a man, or a woman and two men.

Actually there was a case that was starting to get some traction, a couple of years ago -- a woman named April Divilbiss, in Tenessee I think, was stripped of custody of her child after she appeared on a TV show to discuss her polyamorous lifestyle. She was living with two men, to one of whom she was legally married but referred to both as her "husbands"; the child was from a prior relationship. I believe what happened was that the child's paternal grandparents sued for custody saying that Divilbiss was an unfit mother because of her lifestyle, and the judge ruled in their favor. Divilbiss appealed and the polyamory movement rallied to her cause. I recall that Stanley Kurtz at the National Review, one of the people who have predicted that the legalization of polygamy would be the next big step after gay marriage, wrote that this case could be a watershed for the beginning of "polygamy acceptance." But the case folded when Divilbiss withdrew her appeal and reached an agreement under which she could have her child back if she kicked "husband No. 2" out of the house. I think she also had to agree no maintain no contact with him whatsoever, but I'm not so sure about that.

Anonymous said...

I'm always baffled by the argument that we should disallow gay marriage because it might lead to polygamy. It seems to require the pre-existing belief that polygamy is worse than gay marriage. I just don't get that.

Polygamy has been and continues to be part of cultures for basically as long as we have any records that could confirm it--including, of course, what most of us call the Old Testament. Even Martin Luther couldn't find anything in Christian doctrine to condemn plural marriage.

Mind you, I have no interest in participating myself. (I'm fond of Mark Twain's observation that polygamy violates the Bible, because a man cannot have two masters.) But I'm one of many who demonstrably wouldn't exist were it not for polygamy--on both the maternal and paternal sides of my family. My maternal grandmother was one of her father's 31 children. Unlike most of my generation, I was raised as part of a group that had polygamy within the personal memory of many people that I knew. (Mormon church-sanctioned plural marriages definitely did not end in 1890, as the church publicaly announced. When they ended, exactly, is hard to pin down, but they continued at least until 1918, and probably sporadically for another 10 or so years.)

Just speaking of Mormon splinter groups, there are thousands of polygamous families now living in Utah, Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Texas, and Alberta. And who knows how many Muslim polygamists are here with their multiple wives? As a physician, I cared for several Hmong families in which a man had two wives (though never more than that, within my experience).

I really am hard-pressed to grasp how people see polygamy as a "point B" so horrific as to need to avoid "point A," lest it lead us there. Legal formalities aside, it's here, always has been, always will be. It strikes me as *obviously* less different from monogamous heterosexual marriages than homosexual marriages would be.

To be clear, I, too, am in favor of gay marriage. More broadly, I don't think the state or federal governments should at all be in the business of defining who is or can be married. Marriage can be a wholly religious or personal institution, with any rights associated with it done by contract, rather than statute. But that's a whole 'nuther discussion. For now, I just say, "Why do people get their undies in a bunch over polygamy?" I don't see how it threatens anything or anybody who chooses not to participate in it.

Anonymous said...

buy wow gold,cheap wow gold,power wow power levelingworld of warcrft gold.

Anonymous said...

Do you know dofus kama? I like it. My brother often goes to the internet bar to buy kamas and play it. After school, He likes playing games using these cheap kamas with his friend. I think that it not only costs much money but also spend much time. One day, he give me many dofus gold and play the game with me. I came to the bar following him and found buy dofus kamas was so cheap.

Anonymous said...

Have you heared about a game which you need use kal geons to play, and you can also borrow kal gold from other players? But you can buy kal online geons, or you will lose the choice if you do not have kal online gold. If you get kalonline Geons, you can continue this game.

Anonymous said...

If you want to buy gold, you can Tibia Gold, because the game nice Tibia coins. Thanks for you buy Tibia money, you will find tibia gp, You are right Tibia Platinum,I am glad to see you.

Anonymous said...

Paypalpuma basketBlack is lubricious, can match, but young people don't want to match with brunetpuma femmes, can try even cardigan knitting coat will appear lively cap. Boys and girls, puma CATcan choose to Bon March¨¦Chaussure PumaChaussure Sports Shop:baskets pumaChaussure Puma Femme,Chaussure Puma Homme,Chaussure Nike Femme,Chaussure Nike homme,chaussures nikeChaussure Sport et plus. Livraison Rapide.nike air max ltd is divided into sports life and NIKE NIKENIKE air shoes sports mark for a big hook (swoosh)NIKE life (NSW) mark is a hook NIKE swoosh

Anonymous said...

I am grateful to you for this great content.aöf thanks radyo dinle cool hikaye very nice ssk sorgulama only cinsellik very nice ehliyet only home free kadın last go korku jomax med olsaoy hikaye lesto go müzik dinle free only film izle love aşk only mp3 indir only radyolar lest go açıköğretim free net only filmler

Anonymous said...

哈啦論壇
浪漫月光論壇
中暑
中暑 abc 急救
BMI
糖尿病
無蝦米正式版
kmplayer繁體中文版
爆爆王無敵程式
mlb中文官方
迅雷5下載
you tube 中文版
smg 軟體
facebook中文介面
免費掃毒軟體
音樂播放軟體 winamp
adobe reader
wwindows 7 序號申請
windows 7 beta
7zip 中文版
PhotoImpact 12
ie8 0繁體中文版
nero 9序號產生器
pigo 遊戲網法
winzip 9 0 繁體中文版
mxie v0 6 0 1 繁體中文版
ewido 線上掃毒版
rocketdock 中文化
quicktime player 繁體中文版
pcman下載
emule 繁體中文版
生份證產生器

Anonymous said...

Recently, according to a survey concerning the most glamorous women conducted by the professionals, Michelle Obama is in the first place. links of london You should never surprise why so many charming creatures, such as Angelina Jolie and Gisele Bundchen, are left behind. links of london Just simply imagine that what will happen if the women like them are in the office. So clear the answer. links of london And Michelle Obama may have no special features on her face and figure. Nevertheless, she has a talent on the fashion trend and matching of costume and charms. links of london In consideration of her age, figure, status, and taste, she is absolutely the outstanding model of women in the middle class all over the world. links of london As to the women in managing level, they also have their true links of london icon at last. links of london It is well known that pearls are the favorite of Michelle Obama. Besides, she also tries to wear one piece of jewel upon another, Cartier upon links of london, for instance. links of london It is lamination that keeps the focus of eyes and increases the sense of gradation of jewels, revealing luxury and brightness which makes her admire by others. links of london However, these brilliant jewelries are mainly for women with certain abilities, capacity, qualities, and experience. links of london And they, truly, need a piece of brilliant bracelet to dress in order to be confident among women in the same class. links of london The lamination of jewels is just a fashionable style for young ladies and diamonds are too dear, so links of london or Channel silver, for example, are best alternative. links of london Keeping an eye on the first lady means focusing on the fashion trend and therefore, you will lead a wonderful life as an OL. links of london

Anonymous said...

You are right, I believe that there will be many readers like you
Chanel Cambon?Christian Louboutin?Chanel Bags Chanel Clutches Jimmy Choo

Chanel Denim Handbags?Manolo Blahnik Chanel nappa handbags

Yves Saint Lauret?Christian Louboutin Boots Gucci Handbagsdiscount christianlouboutinManolo Blahnik Gucci Bags?Jimmy Choo? Gucci Wallets?Louis Vuitton BagsYves Saint Lauret? YSL?Christian

Louboutin
?http://www.bestlouisvuitton.com/http://www.buylouboutin.com/http://www.yitingbuy.com/http://www.discount-christianlouboutin.com/
 

Anonymous said...

Truely a nice blog and thanks for your great work. By the way, welcome to our websites: cheap adidas shoes and ghd hair straightners. Every men like sport, then, it is quite important to have a pair of right sports shoes to make you fully enjoy the sports. We provide nike sport shoes , cheap sport shoes, puma cat shoes, cheap nike shox shoes, cheap nike max shoes, shox shoes, nike shox r4running shoes which are brand new and in perfect condition but on discount.
All of the shoes, including the popularferrari shoespuma running shoes, nike tn dollar,which is the representative shoes of nike air max tnshoes are authentic and original of top quality. For people like running and playing basketball and other field sports, nothing would be more suitable than the puma shoes and nike shox nz basketball shoes. In addition to the shoes mentioned above, you may also be interested in the cheap adidas shoes , JORDAN WOMEN SHOES and nike running shoes, puma shoes , Nike Air Max Tn shoes and so on. The Nike air max series are specially designed and made for runners. It is the professional NIKE WOMEN SHOES jordan women shoesfor running . Wholesale and retail are both acceptable to us. Welcome to our site and free to look! Thank you and wish you a nice day. Good Luck!Everybody like beauty, which is quite commen, especailly womens. Welcom to our store which is focused on sellingghd hair straighteners mk4and hair straightners. For women, especially the young girls, this pink ghd hair straightenersis the best choice. ghd hair straightnersis famouse for the pretty outlook and the top quality. The price of this cheap ghd hair straightenersis acceptable and rational.
The ghd iv styler hair straightener is the newest product with a nice outlook and top quality.ghd mk4 hair straightener, purple ghd hair straighteners is beautiful, favourite by girls. ghd hair straightnersis necessary for you. It will be not difficult to you to become beautiful.

Anonymous said...

Lately, professionals selected by vote for the most attractive women. According to the result published on the U.S. media, Michelle Obama ranked first. charm bracelet Nothing deserves your wondering why such sweeties like Angelina Jolie and Gisele Bundchen are left behind. links of london charm So simple! Just imagine that if such women are in the office, what is the consequence? links of london charm bracelet And Michelle Obama may have no special features on her face and figure. Nevertheless, she has a talent on the fashion trend and matching of costume and jewelry. links of london In consideration of her age, figure, status, and taste, she is absolutely the outstanding model of women in the middle class all over the world. sweetie bracelet As to the women in managing level, they also have their true links of london friendship bracelet icon at last. links of london chains It is well known that pearls are the favorite of Michelle Obama. Besides, she also tries to wear one piece of jewel upon another, Cartier upon links of london Jewellery, for instance. charm bracelets Lamination plays an important role in keeping the focus of eyes and increasing the sense of gradation, making her look so and that is hard to be ignored. sweetie bracelet

Anonymous said...

In here I found that all the gold were cheap and the wow gold was the cheapest, you can come here to buy wow gold, you can introduce your friends to come to here to buy the wow gold we will give you some preferential, and also you can bought the wow gold, we can sure that in the market our wow goldwas the cheapest.

immwhim said...

classic Guess handbags
Rolex Replica, Replica Rolex Watch, Fake Rolex, Rolex Replica Watches
Replica Watches
Fake Rolex
Wholesale Replica Handbags,Replica Gucci,Replica Chanel,Replica Christian Louboutin,Replica Louis Vuitton
replica LOUIS VUITTON
replica CHANEL
replica GUCCI
replica travel business
Buy cheap NFL Jerseys, cheap MLB Jerseys, cheap NHL Jerseys, cheap NBA Jerseys - Cheap Jerseys Wholesale
NFL jerseys supplier
MLB jerseys supplier
NHL jerseys supplier
NBA jerseys supplier
jimmy choo
manolo blahnik
alexander mcqueen
high heels wholesale
fake purses,fake bags
replica handbags blog, gucci, chanel....
blog camcorder battery

immwhim said...

Replica Bags/Handbags- Louis Vuitton Replica Bags, Chanel Replica Bags, GUCCI Replica Bags, Hermes Handbags
Louis Vuitton Replica Bags
GUCCI Replica Bags
chanel Replica Bags
Hermes handbags
Balenciaga handbags
Louis Vuitton Replica Bags
GUCCI Replica Bags
chanel Replica Bags
Replica Louis Vuitton Handbags, Replica Chanel Handbags, Replica Guccci Handbags, Tiffany Jewelry, Replica Designer Jewelry
?Louis Vuitton Replica Handbags, Replica Designer Handbags
Chanel Replica Handbags, Replica Designer Handbags
Gucci Replica Handbags, Replica Designer Handbags
Chloe Replica Handbags, Replica Designer Handbags
Replica Designer Jewelry,Replica Jewelry wholesale
Dolce Gabbana Replica Handbags
Mulberry Replica Handbags
2009 Classic Handbags Wholesale, OEM production of Bags, New Arrivals Handbags - Discount Handbags Wholesale
2009 New arrivals coach handbag
classic CA handbags
classic Burberry handbags
classic Miu Miu handbags

immwhim said...

Canon Camcorder Battery|Hitachi Camcorder Battery|JVC Camcorder Battery|Panasonic Camcorder Battery|Samsung Camcorder Battery|Sharp Camcorder Battery

Anonymous said...

Your article is opinions I liked it very much.
No, you can't buy that only you, ourwholesale polo

shirt
, new style cheap price, more can you add movement of healthy and lively
Wholesale Polo Shirts
Ralph Lauren Polo Shirts
Discount Ralph Lauren Polos

ONITSUKA TIGER said...

UGGs Knightsbridge Boots have various of advantages ugg size chart Fully Sheepskin Lined genuine sheepskin ugg.com offical site soft and insole naturally wicks away moisture to maintain us ugg.com dry and toasty feet.Rear multi-colored zipper provides ugg.com sale easy on/off and major style.ugg.com canada- Ugg Fashion; Read ugg.com us product reviews, or select the ugg.com shoes width, and color of the UGG Collection.

Anonymous said...

I am grateful to you for this great content

araç sorgulama
sorgulama
ehliyet
açıköğretim
bağkur sorgulama
ssk sorgulama
emekli sandığı
cinsellik
radyo dinle
korku
evlilik
hikaye

Unknown said...

Ed hardy streak of clothing is expanded into its wholesale ED Hardy chain so that a large number of fans and users can enjoy the cheap ED Hardy Clothes range easily with the help of numerous secured websites, actually, our discount ED Hardy Outlet. As we all know, in fact Wholesale Ed Hardy,is based on the creations of the world renowned tattoo artist Don Ed Hardy. Why Ed hardy wholesale? Well, this question is bound to strike the minds of all individuals. Many people may say cheap Prada shoes is a joke, but we can give you discount Prada Sunglasses , because we have authentic Pradas bags Outlet. Almost everyone will agree that newest Pradas Purses are some of the most beautiful designer handbags ( Pradas handbags 2010) marketed today. Now we have one new product: Prada totes. The reason is simple: fashion prohibited by ugg boots, in other words, we can say it as Cheap ugg boots or Discount ugg boots. We have two kinds of fashionable boots: classic ugg boots and ugg classic tall boots. Ankh Royalty--the Cultural Revolution. Straightens out the collar, the epaulette epaulet, the Ankh Royalty Clothing two-row buckle. Would you like to wear Ankh Royalty Clothes?Now welcome to our AnkhRoyalty Outlet. And these are different products that bear the most famous names in the world of fashion, like Ankh Royalty T-Shirt, by the way-Prada, Spyder, Moncler(Moncler jackets,or you can say Moncler coats, Moncler T-shirt, Moncler vest,and you can buy them from our discount Moncler outlet), GHD, ED Hardy, designer Sunglasses, Ankh Royalty, Twisted Heart.

Unknown said...

NewStreetFashion
Ed Hardy
stylish design
Ed Hardy Wholesale
fashion excellent quality
wholesale Ed Hardy
ED Hardy clothing bring you a super surprise!
ed hardy wholesale clothing
The quality is so good
christian audigier
Young and creative style
abercrombie and fitch
You can have a look at it.
abercrombie & fitch

Unknown said...

Gold4rs.biz offer runescape gold
and runescape accounts service.You can come and have a look!Thank you!

Unknown said...

The Christian Louboutin Heels can help you become sexy and elegant. christian louboutin 2011 sandals are regarded since the symbolic representation of attractive and elegant.christian louboutin wedgesIt is especially suitable for the women who wear the christian louboutin evening shoes at the first time. These christian louboutin pumps combine top quality, reasonable price and fashional design, which is your best choice Artist who promoted his collection of luxury christian louboutin classic
in earlier 90s. No 1 can disregard the existence in the style world, World-famous red-colored soles and christian louboutin peep toe are shaped features. However, you can by no means overlook the beautiful. You do not even need to go inside environment, as well as your slim,christian louboutin thong sandalsgorgeous and graceful legs may be effortlessly discovered in people's eyes.!Welcome to our christian louboutin store.

Jay Keygreer said...

KCMO Window Repair
Liberal KS Rat Exterminator
Investor Friendly Contractors
Contractors Near Me
Buy My Home

Carlos said...


El amor de un perro no se compara con ningún otro. Los perros son tesoros y miniaturas que nos da la naturaleza.