tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post114535191401720588..comments2024-03-29T05:31:02.923-04:00Comments on The Y Files: The Iran nukes debateCathy Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-43180374473746591632011-05-17T22:43:16.742-04:002011-05-17T22:43:16.742-04:00nice share thanks a lot :)
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He believes he has...Ahmadinejad means what he says. He believes he has been appointed by Allah to lead the final jihad against the infidels to bring about the return of this mystical and messianic 12th Imam character, who disappeared in the 900s.<BR/><BR/>Ahmadinejad has also been meeting with leading terrorists in the region, Syrian officials, and Hamas. I suspect the game plan is the detonate a nuclear bomb in Tel Aviv and let Hamas and Syria cleanse Jerusalem and so forth of the remaining infidel population. Israel may exercise its Samson option against Iran, but as Rafsanjani said, a nuclear war with the west will have "acceptable losses."<BR/><BR/>I would have bombed Iran's nuclear program last summer. No nukes for suicidal Mullahs. Period.jhbowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12377271992125388319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145479134687563012006-04-19T16:38:00.000-04:002006-04-19T16:38:00.000-04:00Try googling the simple phrase "fired a shot in an...<I>Try googling the simple phrase "fired a shot in anger".</I><BR/><BR/>The term "fired a shot in anger" is, indeed, a common metaphor in English. "Using nuclear weapons in anger" is not, nor is "in anger" a general metaphor for "in war", so I suggest you stop moving the goalposts. :)<BR/><BR/><I>you are trying to compare the secrecy of the Manhattan Project to something like Cheney stonewalling over the National Energy Policy</I><BR/><BR/>Setting aside your redefinition of "stonewalling" to mean "refusing to tell Congress things it has no legal right or legitimate reason to know" and the fact that I never mentioned Cheney or the pseudo-scandal over the NEP, what's so absurd about the parallel? What legitimate purpose was served by keeping the fact that we were attempting to develop an atomic bomb a secret from the American people? It did nothing to improve American security and denied the public (and most of the government) any role in deciding whether the use of nuclear weapons was a good idea or not. <BR/><BR/>The Bush Administration informed top Democrats of its surveillance of suspected Al Qaeda operatives even though the operation would be rendered near-useless in the event Al Qaeda found out about it. FDR and Truman kept the Bomb a secret, even after it was developed and functional, and even though there was nothing Germany or Japan could have done about it at that point.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145399328473311692006-04-18T18:28:00.000-04:002006-04-18T18:28:00.000-04:00"In anger" = "at war".So if I yell at somebody who...<I>"In anger" = "at war".</I><BR/><BR/>So if I yell at somebody who cuts me off in traffic, I'm declaring war on him?<BR/><BR/><I>You know, as distinct from a tragic accident. Common usage, I believe.</I><BR/><BR/>Common usage among people who, out of ignorance, assume that hate is the driving factor in war. We didn't nuke Japan because we were mad at them; we nuked them in order to avoid having to invade them.<BR/><BR/><I>You're right. Truman had a hell of a lot more sense and decency than Bush.</I><BR/><BR/>You're welcome to your opinion, but you've no rational basis for it.<BR/><BR/><I> the way, I didn't realize that the Republicans were opposed to the atomic strikes in '45.</I><BR/><BR/>The Republicans weren't asked their opinion on the atomic strikes, as the administration had kept the atmoic program a secret from the American people. Food for thought for those who fret about Bush administration "secrecy".Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145392015471472482006-04-18T16:26:00.000-04:002006-04-18T16:26:00.000-04:00Yes, if USA uses a nuclear bomb it will become eve...Yes, if USA uses a nuclear bomb it will become even more hated and would be vulnerable to further attacks from various groups.Muslim Unityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08829420796647548967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145386657732360272006-04-18T14:57:00.000-04:002006-04-18T14:57:00.000-04:00The difference - the US has nukes, and remains the...<I>The difference - the US has nukes, and remains the only country to have ever used them in anger.</I><BR/><BR/>We didn't "use them in anger", we used them in a war, to END that war, against the people who started that war. <BR/><BR/>It also makes no logical sense to use that fact to infer that the United States is somehow more likely than Iran to use nuclear weapons -- the people who ordered the use of nukes in 1945 are long-dead and belonged to the opposing political party. You might as well look at what Iran is likely to do by examining the policies of the late Shah.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145381108372815372006-04-18T13:25:00.000-04:002006-04-18T13:25:00.000-04:00This is a pretty reasonable assessment. My only q...This is a pretty reasonable assessment. My only quibble is that I don't think Henley is unreasonable to take Bush's sabre-rattling seriously, given that the administration is making exactly the same denials they made before Iraq. <BR/><BR/>As for Mr. Goldstein...well, I don't think it's silly to take options off the table if they're absolutely guaranteed to make things catastrophically worse; such is the case with bombing Iran.Tom Hiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17575511424823512042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145370132795259272006-04-18T10:22:00.000-04:002006-04-18T10:22:00.000-04:00I wonder at the game that Iran is playing, and whe...I wonder at the game that Iran is playing, and whether Ahmadinejad isn't crazy like a fox. He seems to be doing everything he can to provoke a military response from either Israel or the US. You have to ask yourself why he would be doing that.<BR/><BR/>And you have to realize (I hope) that if Iran wants the US to bomb them (which seems certain to me), then bombing them is probably the last thing the US should be doing. So far, Iran has been playing the US (and the EU) for fools, but what is the goal? Domination of eastern Iraq? Shia solidarity? Expansion of the Islamic republic, the mullahtocracy? Maybe all of the above.Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023986850397045322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145369358003593352006-04-18T10:09:00.000-04:002006-04-18T10:09:00.000-04:00Ahmadinejad is a threat -- but a more canny one th...Ahmadinejad is a threat -- but a more canny one than people may realize.<BR/><BR/>Analysts believe Ahmadinejad will announce “a ‘temporary suspension’ of uranium enrichment as a ‘confidence building measure'” before the U.N. Security Council’s “deadline” for Iran to stop its uranium enrichment program.<BR/><BR/>Ahmadinejad certainly believes what he says -- but also knows how to rally his constituency and play world politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1145368926495720552006-04-18T10:02:00.000-04:002006-04-18T10:02:00.000-04:00I think this is the first time I've agreed (almost...I think this is the first time I've agreed (almost) completely with you, Cathy. But, being a contrary bastard by nature, I did catch one (parenthesized) point;<BR/><BR/>"It is also telling that Henley takes possible nuclear saber-rattling by the Bush Administration very seriously but downplays and minimizes the significance of Ahmadinejad's belligerent talk"<BR/><BR/>The difference - the US has nukes, and remains the only country to have ever used them in anger. From what I have read, Iran is still at least several years away from having one. <BR/><BR/>I don't know how to assess Ahmadinejad's ranting, but recent history should make us very nervous about the US Administration's intentions.<BR/><BR/>Rob GAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com