tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post113821382507420286..comments2024-03-29T05:31:02.923-04:00Comments on The Y Files: The company we keep?Cathy Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-35493564330748829012012-07-06T03:17:51.876-04:002012-07-06T03:17:51.876-04:00You got a really useful blog I have been here read...You got a really useful blog I have been here reading for about an hour. I am a newbie and your success is very much an inspiration for me.<br /><a href="http://www.pixspeak-now.com/" rel="nofollow">Free Fun Apps</a>Knox Karterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529605912425314220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-35456542738429612832012-05-03T08:27:29.113-04:002012-05-03T08:27:29.113-04:00Wow its totally a unique dress designs really very...Wow its totally a unique dress designs really very impressive..<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.socialjitney.com/" rel="nofollow">Blackberry Application Development</a>justin alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05630509064102875406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-7132350930076219102012-03-26T06:58:07.320-04:002012-03-26T06:58:07.320-04:00"Thanks for sharing, nice post.
i follow you ..."Thanks for sharing, nice post.<br />i follow you hope you could visit me here and follow me too,, thanks."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.logodesignuniverse.com/53/pharmaceuticals-logo.html" rel="nofollow">Pharmaceuticals Logo</a>Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10340130971546973886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-9004858885494556062012-03-22T04:00:37.452-04:002012-03-22T04:00:37.452-04:00Thank you for another great article. Where else co...Thank you for another great article. Where else could anyone get that kind of information in such a perfect way of writing? I have a presentation next week, and I am on the look for such information.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.ebrandster.com" title="Internet Marketing" rel="nofollow">Internet Marketing</a>Knox Karterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09529605912425314220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-4068085308779343212011-07-11T23:08:12.484-04:002011-07-11T23:08:12.484-04:00Welcome to the Christian Louboutin Outlet Online s...Welcome to the <b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/" title="Christian Louboutin Outlet Online" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Outlet Online</a></b> store. CL is the world's most famous high-heeled shoes. Women who wear it do not feel the same. Our <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/" title="Christian Louboutin Outlet" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Outlet</a></strong> stores offer a variety of CL. For example: <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/2011-christian-louboutin-c-1.html" title="2011 Christian Louboutin" rel="nofollow">2011 Christian Louboutin</a></strong>,<strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/christian-louboutin-ankle-boots-c-6.html" title="Christian Louboutin Ankle Boots" rel="nofollow"> Christian Louboutin Ankle Boots</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/christian-louboutin-heels-c-2.html" title="Christian Louboutin Heels" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Heels</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/christian-louboutin-new-sandals-c-5.html" title="Christian Louboutin New Sandals" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin New Sandals</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/christian-louboutin-peeptoe-c-3.html" title="Christian Louboutin Peep-Toe" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Peep-Toe</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/christian-louboutin-pumps-c-4.html" title="Christian Louboutin Pumps" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Pumps</a></strong>, <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/christian-louboutin-tall-boots-c-7.html" title="Christian Louboutin Tall Boots" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Tall Boots</a></strong>. We will save you 80% of the money, thank you patronize hristian <strong><a href="http://www.christianlouboutin-outlet-shoes.net/" title="Christian Louboutin Outlet Online" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Outlet Online</a></strong> Store.jelishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17251406092523388054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-58392824522779657532011-06-17T22:02:45.140-04:002011-06-17T22:02:45.140-04:00Christian Louboutin Outlet Online Store offer 2011...<b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org" title="Christian Louboutin Outlet Online" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Outlet Online</a></b> Store offer 2011 new-style <b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org" title="Christian Louboutin Sale Outlet" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Sale Outlet</a></b> online store.We will provide you with all kinds of CL.The <b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org/christian-louboutin-ankle-boots-c-98.html" title="Christian Louboutin Ankle Boots" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Ankle Boots</a></b> serve different functions and keep your feet stylish and warm,<b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org/christian-louboutin-high-heels-c-94.html" title="Christian Louboutin High Heels" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin High Heels</a></b> can always show our body in the best charming way, making her legs look as long as possible.<b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org/christian-louboutin-new-style-c-93.html" title="Christian Louboutin New Style" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin New Style</a></b> are the best choice for you to choose the brand, especially you want to keep steps to the fashion world.<b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org/christian-louboutin-peep-toes-c-95.html" title="Christian Louboutin Peep Toes" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Peep Toes</a></b> that are considered as classic due to the fact they are comfortable.Buy cheap <b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org" title="Louboutin Outlet" rel="nofollow">Louboutin Outlet </a></b>shoes, get your favorite.<br /><b><a href="http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianlouboutinoutletonline.org</a></b>jelishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17251406092523388054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-78054335544737611182011-06-17T21:59:15.371-04:002011-06-17T21:59:15.371-04:00Dear friends,Cheap Sale Louboutin online.All shoes...Dear friends,Cheap <b><a href="http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us" rel="nofollow">Sale Louboutin</a></b> online.All shoes elegant shoes is one of masterpiece from <b><a href="http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us/c-christian-louboutin-evenings.html" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Evenings</a></b>. When you buy yourself a pair of<b><a href="http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us/c-christian-louboutin-pumps.html" rel="nofollow"> Christian Louboutin Pumps</a></b> shoes you allow yourself to benefit from the vast experience and expertise that this brand has collected over the years.<b><a href="http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us/c-christian-louboutin-slingbacks.html" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Slingbacks</a></b> shoes is the personification of women,is their direct orgin of racial pride.<b><a href="http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us/c-christian-louboutin-peep-toe-.html" rel="nofollow">Christian Louboutin Peep Toe</a></b> shoes is the personification of women,is their direct orgin of racial pride.Welcome to our<b><a href="http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us" rel="nofollow"> Louboutin 2011 </a></b>stoer.<b><a href="http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.sale-louboutin-shoes.us</a></b>jelishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17251406092523388054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1376269152510454612011-05-31T23:55:11.645-04:002011-05-31T23:55:11.645-04:00All the cheap christian louboutin heels for retail...All the cheap <strong><a href="http://www.christian-louboutin-heels.us" title="christian louboutin heels" rel="nofollow">christian louboutin heels</a></strong> for retailing inside our store can be to offer solutions of first-class quality. The <strong><a href="http://www.christian-louboutin-heels.us/c-christian-louboutin-evening.html" title="christian louboutin evening" rel="nofollow">christian louboutin evening</a></strong> complete great deal could possibly be the fine and fashionable one.They take place in fascinating design and layout and fashionable appearnce.The colourway also is quite popular. These <strong><a href="http://www.christian-louboutin-heels.us/c-christian-louboutin-pumps.html" title="christian louboutin pumps" rel="nofollow">christian louboutin pumps</a></strong> are luxury and noble. The <strong><a href="http://www.christian-louboutin-heels.us/c-christian-louboutin-peep-toe.html" title="christian louboutin peep toe" rel="nofollow">christian louboutin peep toe</a></strong> show formal, a complete great deal extra show its gorgeous gloss and honour. hold into some mysterious alluring taste! This pairs of <strong><a href="http://www.christian-louboutin-heels.us/c-christian-louboutin-2011-sandals.html" title="christian louboutin 2011 sandals" rel="nofollow">christian louboutin 2011 sandals</a></strong> attributes a quite considerable component for women's fabulous whole system figure, show their fabulous figure and fashionable gesture. <strong><a href="http://www.christian-louboutin-heels.us" title="Louboutin heels" rel="nofollow">Louboutin heels</a></strong> is a good choice for you, welcome to our <strong><a href="http://www.christian-louboutin-heels.us" title="Christian louboutin store" rel="nofollow">Christian louboutin store</a></strong>!Happy Baby Peplohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17316365860497200669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-7838767377271170862011-05-17T22:56:08.102-04:002011-05-17T22:56:08.102-04:00nice share thanks a lot :)
download free pc gam...nice share thanks a lot :) <br /><br /><a href="http://www.ourpcgame.net" rel="nofollow"> download free pc games </a><br /><a href="http://www.affiliatesrating.com" rel="nofollow"> affiliate review</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217946196345356227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-52618861726486482452010-04-03T08:54:19.754-04:002010-04-03T08:54:19.754-04:00Fashion trends change on daily basis, like Cheap G...Fashion trends change on daily basis, like <b><a href="http://www.ghdhairstraightenerswholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">Cheap GHD Straighteners</a></b> (you can get it from a <b><a href="http://www.ghdhairstraightenerswholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">GHD Outlet</a></b>), Why not get rid of your old straighteners to buy new <b><a href="http://www.ghdhairstraightenerswholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">GHDs</a></b>? There is another kind hair straightener, called <b><a href="http://www.ghdhairstraightenerswholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">CHI hair Straighteners</a></b>. Do you want to buy <b><a href="http://www.ghdhairstraightenerswholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">Discount GHD Styler</a></b>? Following the latest in designer shades has become a passion of everyone, now <b><a href="http://www.sunglasshunting.com/" rel="nofollow">2010 Cheap Sunglasses</a></b>, or we can say 2010 <b><a href="http://www.sunglasshunting.com/" rel="nofollow">Discount Sunglasses</a></b>. If <br /><br />you are the type of a woman who loves to explore in fashion, our <b><a href="http://www.sunglasshunting.com/" rel="nofollow">Sunglasses Outlet</a></b> will definitely satisfy your <br /><br />taste, because as you can see, we <b><a href="http://www.sunglasshunting.com/" rel="nofollow">wholesale Sunglasses</a></b>. Designer shades with optical grade lenses are important to <br /><br />protect our eyes from the sun. Don’t forget us-- <b><a href="http://www.sunglasshunting.com/" rel="nofollow">Sunglasses Wholesale</a></b>. Ed hardy streak of clothing is expanded <br /><br />into its wholesale <b><a href="http://www.pickedhardyca.com/" rel="nofollow">ED Hardy</a></b> chain so that a large number of fans and users can enjoy the <b><a href="http://www.pickedhardyca.com/" rel="nofollow">cheap ED Hardy Clothes</a></b> range easily with the help of numerous secured websites, actually, our <b><a href="http://www.pickedhardyca.com/" rel="nofollow">discount ED Hardy Outlet</a></b>. As we all know, in fact <b><a href="http://www.pickedhardyca.com/" rel="nofollow">Wholesale Ed Hardy</a></b>, <br /><br />is based on the creations of the world renowned tattoo artist Don Ed Hardy. Why <b><a href="http://www.pickedhardyca.com/" rel="nofollow">Ed hardy wholesale</a></b>? Well, this <br /><br />question is bound to strike the minds of all individuals. Many people may say <b><a href="http://www.us-handbagsoutlet.com/" rel="nofollow">cheap Prada</a></b> is a joke, but we can <br /><br />give you <b><a href="http://www.us-handbagsoutlet.com" rel="nofollow">discount Prada</a></b>, because we have <b><a href="http://www.us-handbagsoutlet.com" rel="nofollow">Prada Outlet</a></b>. <br /><br />Almost everyone will agree that <b><a href="http://www.us-handbagsoutlet.com/" rel="nofollow">newest Prada handbags</a></b> are some of the most beautiful designer handbags (<b><a href="http://www.us-handbagsoutlet.com" rel="nofollow">Prada handbags 2010</a></b>) marketed today. The reason is simple: fashion prohibited by <b><a href="http://www.ankhroyalty-us.com/" rel="nofollow">AnkhRoyalty</a></b>, in other words, we can write it as <b><a href="http://www.ankhroyalty-us.com/" rel="nofollow">Ankh Royalty</a></b> the Cultural Revolution. Straightens <br /><br />out the collar, the epaulette epaulet, the <b><a href="http://www.ankhroyalty-us.com/" rel="nofollow">Ankh Royalty Clothing </a></b> two-row buckle. Would you like to wear <b><a href="http://www.ankhroyalty-us.com/" rel="nofollow">Ankh Royalty Clothes</a></b>?Now welcome to our <b><a href="http://www.ankhroyalty-us.com/" rel="nofollow">AnkhRoyalty Outlet</a></b>.Annyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07167255637070044121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138406180572471932006-01-27T18:56:00.000-05:002006-01-27T18:56:00.000-05:00Did the US government give a reason for voting to ...Did the US government give a reason for voting to reject the two groups? I haven't seen one -- just the NGLTF's press release on the subject.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138328717383809152006-01-26T21:25:00.000-05:002006-01-26T21:25:00.000-05:00Dishonest may have been an unfortunately harsh cho...Dishonest may have been an unfortunately harsh choice of words.<BR/><BR/>Incomplete better describes it.<BR/><BR/>But I've been pleasantly surprised that you have taken the time to flesh out your original post, and to positively engage your commenters. Keep up the good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138309717228984462006-01-26T16:08:00.000-05:002006-01-26T16:08:00.000-05:00Steve: no dishonesty; I simply wasn't aware of the...Steve: no dishonesty; I simply wasn't aware of the issue. As soon as I became aware of it, I ran my addendum.Cathy Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138308763936501912006-01-26T15:52:00.000-05:002006-01-26T15:52:00.000-05:00I've been remiss in not answering the question Z p...I've been remiss in not answering the question Z posed to me, so here goes.<BR/><BR/>I would welcome ILGA's presense at the table, given what appears to be their repudiation of their prior relationship with NAMBLA.<BR/><BR/>However, my original point still stands. I felt that it was dishonest for the ILGA, Cathy Young, and Kevin Drum (where I originally linked from) to portray the ILGA as a victim, and the U.S. as a villain, without mentioning the context under which they lost their consultive status. That said, I applaud Cathy's addendum.<BR/><BR/>I'm no fan of the Bush administration, and have no doubt that they may be rejecting the ILGA for purely ideological reasons. But I think it's telling that in their press release, the ILGA gave no indication that they had made any attempts to assuage the concerns of the U.S., and others. <BR/><BR/>If they have, they should make that point loud and clear, and they deserve to have their application fairly condsidered. If they have not, they need to explain why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138297362052600032006-01-26T12:42:00.000-05:002006-01-26T12:42:00.000-05:00re: "The company we keep."Heck... what about the "...re: "The company we keep."<BR/><BR/>Heck... what about the "company we're KEEPING" just by being a member of the UN? (*SMIRK*)<BR/><BR/>Seriously... I don't know or care enough about NGLTF or UNESC or ILGA or LBL to hazard an opinion on who's right and who's wrong and regardless of absolute rights or wrongs which organization(s) have no good points vs. some good points vs. lots of good points, BUT...<BR/><BR/>Taring (tarring?) the US (the Bush administration specifically) with the broad brush of "guilt by association" seems somewhat simplistic and a bit of a cheap shot.<BR/><BR/>BILLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138293030837751692006-01-26T11:30:00.000-05:002006-01-26T11:30:00.000-05:00Anon,Well, we suffered for it then. We are still ...Anon,<BR/><BR/>Well, we suffered for it then. We are still suffering for it now, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of us DO condemn and shun the pedophiles and have officially done so for over a decade (though most of us have informally done so for as long as I can remember).<BR/><BR/>Rev,<BR/><BR/>I don't follow the gay press as religiously as I used to (and probably should). So, I don't know that much about gay prosecution and harrassment in China. I do know that it wasn't until the late 90s that the Chinese psychological association decided that homosexuality wasn't a mental illness. The American Psychological Association, by contrast, determined that in 1979.<BR/><BR/>ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138288167089580792006-01-26T10:09:00.000-05:002006-01-26T10:09:00.000-05:00raj wrote: "If UNESCO had disassociated itself fr...raj wrote: "If UNESCO had disassociated itself from countries that allowed for underage and/or forced marriages, female (and male) forced circumsisions, "honor killings" and other attrocities, I might sit up and listen."<BR/><BR/>The UN will never disassociate itself from any country, no matter what. It is the, you know, United Nations. This is both the major strength and the major weakness of the UN.<BR/><BR/>Z wrote: "Basically, while the vast majority of [the gay community] thought (and still do) that NAMBLA was creepy, disturbing, and pretty much made us all look bad . . . "<BR/><BR/>Republicans are often (and rightly) condemned for associating with racists. The same rule applies to the gay community: if you can't find it within yourselves to condemn and shun criminal deviants, then you will suffer the consequences. There should be no controversy over a group such as NAMBLA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138285314660080502006-01-26T09:21:00.000-05:002006-01-26T09:21:00.000-05:00This issue regarding ILGA and NAMBLA is ridiculous...This issue regarding ILGA and NAMBLA is ridiculous. If UNESCO had disassociated itself from countries that allowed for underage and/or forced marriages, female (and male) forced circumsisions, "honor killings" and other attrocities, I might sit up and listen. They don't, so I won't.<BR/><BR/>--rajAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138248147846291902006-01-25T23:02:00.000-05:002006-01-25T23:02:00.000-05:00I wonder what the reason was for China voting agai...I wonder what the reason was for China voting against the inclusion of the groups. Do they typically adopt homophobic policy stances? I can't say I've followed their behavior on these issues.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138236363012804342006-01-25T19:46:00.000-05:002006-01-25T19:46:00.000-05:00Z, thanks for the background.I think that ILGA's o...Z, thanks for the background.<BR/><BR/>I think that ILGA's officially signing on to the International Convention on the Rights of the Child should be sufficient to put the "pro-pedophilia" controversy to rest.<BR/><BR/>(Incidentally, re the critique of age of consent laws: in a number of countries the age of consent for same-sex relationships is officially set higher than for opposite-sex ones, and penalties for same-sex relations with a minor are higher than for opposite-sex ones. I think that's a legitimate issue of discrimination.)<BR/><BR/>Also, let's not forget that the US along with Iran, Cuba & Co. voted not simply to deny these groups membership in the council, but to summarily reject their application <I>without a hearing</I>.<BR/><BR/>A hearing could've been ILGA's chance to prove its record is clean with regard to pedophilia issues.Cathy Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138236104150478592006-01-25T19:41:00.000-05:002006-01-25T19:41:00.000-05:00Well, hopefully, Stevek will reply by tomorrow. I...Well, hopefully, Stevek will reply by tomorrow. I have to sign off soon, but I thought it might be useful to add a little context to this discussion. <BR/><BR/>I came out in '92, and was a member of a student gay rights group when this whole ILGA / UN thing went down. Within the gay community, kicking out NAMBLA and the others was controversial. Basically, while the vast majority of us thought (and still do) that NAMBLA was creepy, disturbing, and pretty much made us all look bad, they were still allies in the fight against homophobia, discrimination, and other mistreatment of gay people. <BR/><BR/>At the time, the don't-ask-don't-tell debate had produced a lot of anti-gay backlash, and along with that, assaults against gay people increased. Most of us had been harrassed or discriminated against at some point and knew at least one person who had been physically assaulted. It was a scary time. We didn't have that many allies and the gay community isn't that big. So, some people felt that, rather than split the gay community into 'good' and 'bad' groups, we should all stick together.<BR/><BR/>I understood their view, but I was very happy ILGA put some distance between itself, mainstream groups pushing for equal rights, and the creepy NAMBLA types. Included in that is the fact that ILGA amended their constitution, in the '90s, to officially sign on to the Convention to the Rights of the Child, which explicitly defines children as under 18, and bans the sexual abuse and exploitation of them. All members must agree to the tenants of the ILGA constitution. <BR/><BR/>ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138229417502028862006-01-25T17:50:00.000-05:002006-01-25T17:50:00.000-05:00Stevek,If the ILGA released its membership lists f...Stevek,<BR/><BR/>If the ILGA released its membership lists from all those countries in which homosexuality is not illegal and none of those member groups endorsed pedophilia, would you agree that they have sufficiently met the burden of proof?<BR/><BR/>ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138228073072803342006-01-25T17:27:00.000-05:002006-01-25T17:27:00.000-05:00Here is the entire wikipedia entry.Controversy and...Here is the <B>entire</B> wikipedia entry.<BR/><BR/><I>Controversy and loss of UN consultative status<BR/><BR/>In the summer of 1993 the ILGA gained consultative status on the UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) as a Non-Governmental-Organization, joining 3,000 organisations throughout the world. However, that status was suspended in 1994 after a campaign led by Jesse Helms focussing on NAMBLA's membership in ILGA. ILGA members voted 214-30 to expel three pedophile groups but despite this was not able to convince the UN that it had no member organisations that promoted pedophilia.<BR/><BR/>ILGA had passed a resolution in 1985 which stated that "young people have the right to sexual and social self-determination and that age of consent laws often operate to oppress and not to protect." In spite of this apparent agreement with NAMBLA on the age of consent issue just nine years before, ILGA, by a vote of 214-30 expelled NAMBLA and two other groups in early 1994 because they were judged to be "groups whose predominant aim is to support or promote pedophilia." The UN removed ILGA's consultative status "based on concerns raised about its member organizations or subsidiaries that promoted or condoned paedophilia". [3]<BR/><BR/>ILGA applied to have its consultative status reinstated in 2000 [4], but on 30 April 2002 the United Nations' Economic & Social Council voted 29-17 not to grant this application. [5] The Washington Times reported that opponents blocked ILGA's attempt to regain consultative status because the association had not provided sufficient evidence that it had eliminated NAMBLA and the other pedophile groups from its membership roster, ILGA having refused to provide UN officials with a list of its member organizations. ILGA justified keeping its membership secret on the grounds that, in many countries, homosexual activity is still criminalised and such a list would identify its groups and put them in danger. [6]<BR/><BR/>On 3 May 2003, ECOSOC voted to again decline consultative status to ILGA. ILGA submitted another application, along with other LGBT rights organisations but it was rejected on 23 January 2006.<BR/><BR/>Having purged all three pro-paedophilia groups from its 400-group membership, the ILGA continues its work promoting equal rights for lesbian and gay people across the world. Much is still made of the NAMBLA scandal and it is commonly used as an argument against gay rights by various groups, particularly the right wing.</I><BR/><BR/>If the ILGA has, in fact, provided acceptable documentation that it no longer is connected to pedophilia advocates, then I would agree that the Bush administration is pandering to the homophobes. As it stands now, it seems to me that the burden of proof is on the ILGA.<BR/><BR/>If the Danish group tied its application to that of the ILGA, perhaps it ought to consider the company <B>it</B> keeps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138227815002428192006-01-25T17:23:00.000-05:002006-01-25T17:23:00.000-05:00Did we reject for the same reasons? I am sure Iran...Did we reject for the same reasons? I am sure Iran and the US had voted on the same side of other issues as well. Does that make us their bed fellows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1138227661396049152006-01-25T17:21:00.000-05:002006-01-25T17:21:00.000-05:00"So if Hitler said 2+2=4, then we must say it isn'..."So if Hitler said 2+2=4, then we must say it isn't because otherwise we are the same company? "<BR/><BR/>No. But if Hitler says "The Jews are a threat to humanity and we must destroy them." then we must say that's false and he's a monster. You don't think it's shaneful to agree with Iran on an issue?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com