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Sophie Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09769321133171248409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-81305109037220398842010-08-04T05:53:04.955-04:002010-08-04T05:53:04.955-04:00I appreciate your work! I read many critique of ar...I appreciate your work! I read many <a href="http://www.bestessayhelp.com/critique-of-article" rel="nofollow">critique of article</a> but this one is the best.Larahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110966549885883954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127604829440616142005-09-24T19:33:00.001-04:002005-09-24T19:33:00.001-04:00Is there really a huge segment of society out ther...<I>Is there really a huge segment of society out there that does not understand context? Or do you think its just ignored when its convenient to make their points? </I><BR/><BR/>Good question!Cathy Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127604801545244762005-09-24T19:33:00.000-04:002005-09-24T19:33:00.000-04:00Even a small disclaimer that "we" represents Chris...<I>Even a small disclaimer that "we" represents Christians and was not meant to include the entire non-Christian student body (which comprises a fair percentage of Dartmouth students) would have been a wise and appropriate use of, oh, 3 seconds and probably would have avoided all this fuss. </I><BR/><BR/>Precisely.<BR/><BR/><I>My solution for those who do not want to listen -- gather up some courage and walk out. I don't think it is at all comparable to proseltyzing at work. It was a speech. By definition, isn't it supposed to reflect the speaker's views? </I><BR/><BR/>This isn't just a campus event. It's a student convocation, a ceremony to greet incoming students. Riner was speaking on behalf of the student body, not just for himself. A freshman student who is just starting life in school should <I>not</I> be put in the position of having to either walk out or listen to speech he or she finds offensive.<BR/><BR/>I would feel the same way if a student used a convocation as a platform to make a speech advocating for, say, abortion rights (which I support).Cathy Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127561270101024732005-09-24T07:27:00.000-04:002005-09-24T07:27:00.000-04:00*So a student gives a speech at a private college....*So a student gives a speech at a private college.......<BR/>And this is offensive?*<BR/><BR/><BR/>Is there really a huge segment of society out there that does not understand context? Or do you think its just ignored when its convenient to make their points?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127554110055110902005-09-24T05:28:00.000-04:002005-09-24T05:28:00.000-04:00Never mind Jesus, I found the invocation of the in...Never mind Jesus, I found the invocation of the insufferably self-important Bono far more offensive in this context, especially after reading Traub's tongue-bath of the would-be Messiah in last week's NYTimes Sunday Mag.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13138053216897181833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127547700431097302005-09-24T03:41:00.000-04:002005-09-24T03:41:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13138053216897181833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127527730095859522005-09-23T22:08:00.000-04:002005-09-23T22:08:00.000-04:00So a student gives a speech at a private college i...So a student gives a speech at a private college in which he <BR/>a) gives his own view about how all of us are corrupt, at heart, and <BR/>b) that we need saving and moral guidance, and <BR/>c) that Jesus is the core to that salvation<BR/><BR/>And this is offensive? <BR/><BR/>My solution for those who do not want to listen -- gather up some courage and walk out. I don't think it is at all comparable to proseltyzing at work. It was a speech. By definition, isn't it supposed to reflect the speaker's views? <BR/><BR/>I thought the speech was magnificient. It was intellectual and muscular. I hope Dartmouth has more young men like this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127509175495194822005-09-23T16:59:00.000-04:002005-09-23T16:59:00.000-04:00Thank you Cathy. The media in general needs to pr...Thank you Cathy. The media in general needs to provide more of this service.<BR/><BR/>Too many people are ignorant on many issues because they read or hear comments of pundits and don't do the research that you provide a blackline example of. They end up hearing "facts" that seem to support the biased assertions and it becomes a part of their thinking.<BR/><BR/>Although I'm not sure yet how I feel about these distortions being published in blogs (it seems the blog community does a fairly good job of raising them - thanks to people like you), they seem to be incredibly damaging (and a bit unethical when not disclaimed as not being news) coming from the current mainstream media. I think we already see signs of harm done to the "educated" voting public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127508127890939932005-09-23T16:42:00.000-04:002005-09-23T16:42:00.000-04:00After reading the speech and seeing how well-writt...After reading the speech and seeing how well-written it was (despite the lack of understanding that rape is not a crime of lust, but instead one of power) I can't believe the use of the third person plural when addressing/lecturing the audience was anything BUT proselytizing:<BR/><BR/>"Jesus' message of redemption is simple. People are imperfect, and there are consequences for *our* actions. He gave His life for *our* sin so that we wouldn't have to bear the penalty of the law; so *we* could see love. The problem is me; the solution is God's love: Jesus on the cross, for *us*.<BR/><BR/>Bold emphasis (if it works) is mine. Otherwise, asterisks, mine.<BR/><BR/>Even a small disclaimer that "we" represents Christians and was not meant to include the entire non-Christian student body (which comprises a fair percentage of Dartmouth students) would have been a wise and appropriate use of, oh, 3 seconds and probably would have avoided all this fuss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127507277609777742005-09-23T16:27:00.000-04:002005-09-23T16:27:00.000-04:00Typical. They seem to think that the right to rel...Typical. They seem to think that the right to religious freedom means that they have the right to harrass people in school, in the workplace, the marketplace, the street, etc. Whenever they are told to lay off, they whine about how oppressed they are. It boggles the mind. I have literally had a coworker follow me around preaching, while I was just trying to do my job. It took a managers intervention to get her to go back to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127505496845372352005-09-23T15:58:00.000-04:002005-09-23T15:58:00.000-04:00But of course. The culture of victimization cuts a...But of course. The culture of victimization cuts across the political divide.Cathy Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11306845.post-1127505352484309512005-09-23T15:55:00.000-04:002005-09-23T15:55:00.000-04:00And these same whiners are often the ones to compl...And these same whiners are often the ones to complain about liberals and their "culture of victimization."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com